Tuesday, 3 December 2013

Thales Bushmaster for Jamaica Defence Force (JDF)

From rjrnewsonline:
Cabinet has approved a five year re-capitalization project for the Jamaica Defence Force (JDF). It will allow the JDF to replace obsolete and unserviceable V150 armoured cars in its fleet.
Under the project, the Jamaica Defence Force will acquire 12 Thales Australia Bushmaster armoured personnel carriers (APCs), to be used to assist other ministries, departments and agencies.
This was revealed in a statement from the Office of the Prime Minister Monday night.
Currently the JDF has a complement of 14 Cadillac Gage V150s, 10 of which were acquired 37 years ago and the others in 1985.
Over the course of their service life the vehicles have been utilised in many high-risk situations such as internal security deployments while supporting the Jamaica Constabulary Force (JCF).
In addition they have been used in pre- and post-disaster response and rescue operations.
The Thales Bushmaster APC is designed for the urban operating environment, as well as rugged rural terrains and adverse conditions that exist in a major natural disaster such as an earthquake or hurricane.
Delivery of the Thales Bushmasters will begin in 2015.
It's about time! This is long overdue. Hopefully of that 12, there'll be at least 2 Bushmaster Ambulances in the mix. Saving lives is what it's all about.

27 comments:

  1. About damn time but why 2015? Also I think they need more than 12 they cost almost $600.000 U.S each. They all will be station at Up Park Camp. Jamaica always have ever thing station in one are. Now they need Maritime Air Patrol I guess that will be 2025, Lol.

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    1. The army has some bases and around the country, we'll see how the distribution goes. Next on the wishlist should be some portable land-based coastal surveillance systems such as the ELM-2112.

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    2. They will all be station at Up Park Camp I bet you they refuse to spread equipment and have everything base at one base. As for your wish list Land base Coastals are yours and mind wish list but will never see in Ja. I think even Trinidad has Coastal Survellance and Maritime Air crafts.

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  2. What's up with those lil 6 cylinder jeeps the JDF patrols in? They only seems to carry only 3 or 4 people at once with no supply. Jamaica the only Country I see uses them for Military or patrol.

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    1. They should be in the military museum.

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  3. Those lil jeeps are pathetic .

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    1. Your Pathetic, go lose some weight and you call yourself a soldier

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  4. JDF didn't really need mine-resistant light armored vehicles, but ok, I guess in case they are ever deployed on UN missions, it's better to be overprotected now than underprotected later.

    May have been better off with newer versions of General Dynamics x8 version 25 or 30 mm-armed LAV-III, which are used by many more countries. Could even have received some used ones from the USMC or Canada as part of an aid package at no cost.

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    1. I think the powers that be made the best choice choosing the Bushmaster. The LAV III would've been an overkill. Looks a lot more expensive to buy and to maintain. And it appears to be a left-hand drive vehicle. The Bushmaster is right-hand drive and is more suited for our roads. And if they get some of the ambulance type that would be good for emergency response.

      I wish the JDF was this smart when they went shopping for an offshore patrol vessel. They should've bought the Combat Boat 90 instead of the Stan Patrol 4207. The CB90 also has an ambulance variant, just like the Bushmaster. The JDF need equipment that are compact and adaptable to multiple missions.

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    2. Yes they do, the Don's and big criminals these days are learning from International criminals and Terrarist. they getting advance, I'm just surprised the Government mention finally thought ahead and settle for just anything like they normally do.

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    3. I like the idea they got the 4207's but 3 won't do. They need about 6. The CB90's are too fast for them and not large enough for the muli role the JDF needs. The a Government won't do anything to secure the Borders and again they scared to asked for international assistance to bolster and they waste money on the JCF every month.

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    5. The Bahamas just ordered 9 vessels: 4 Damen 4207s, 4 smaller Patrol Craft of a new design 3007, and 1 Landing Ship for humanitarian/disaster relief & transport operations (should have had a stern helicopter deck) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUblRaPMDA0

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  5. Now can we replace that decrepit Britten-Norman Defender aircraft with at least 4 Do-228NG or similar? We can use 2 for Maritime Patrol/SAR, and 2 for utility duties.

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    1. If only the JDF Air Wing had a place they could truly call home. The government should sell Tinson Pen Aerodrome to the JDF so they can finally have a military airbase and stop sharing space at the Norman Manley airport.

      Why all of two civilian airports in Kingston (owned by the gvt) while there is none for the security forces? Flights to Tinson Pen can go to Norman Manley and let the army station all their aircraft at Tinson Pen (along with the Jamaica Military Aviation School).

      The police and army can then set up a joint air task force that share assets in road traffic and maritime patrol etc. What you think about that? Sounds good to me.

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    2. I agree with you, been reading about them wanting Maritime Aircrafts like 5yrs ago, but we know how the Government operates they wait till something major happens then claim they'll address the needs and the situation then another 5 - 10 yrs to implement.

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    3. Is that Aircraft even operational? What about the Paul Bogle and The Port Charles Boats are they even operational?

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    4. I don't know the status of those equipment but in 2006 the JDF did refurbish some smaller 40 ft vessels, with the help of the US.

      In the news: http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/news/108527_US-Embassy-hands-over-patrol-boat-to-JDF-Coast-Guard

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  6. @Jahlove and Patriotman: You two seem to be big fans of the Jamaica Defense Force, why don't you join the fight, oh sorry Jahlove your turncoat ass already fights for Uncle Sam and Patriotman I don't even know what you are

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  7. Lol. Turncoat ass? Do you even know he term? Why sign in as Anonymous? What have you done have you even served the Jamaican People or your part of the Problem? I served the U.S Military because I gave back what this Country have given me and to do something positive and not be a statistic Deportee like the others and be like the positive Jamaicans that help Jamaica in other ways and show that flag where ever I go. I continued my education with 2 2 degrees in Engineering and International Studies, so this turn coat is a positive turn coat with much love for his Country Jamaica and his adoptive Country the U.S which you hating because you can't get here because your a part of the problem Jamaica is facing. Have you served the Jamaican people?

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  8. The 4207s are great Offshore Patrol craft by Damen. Jamaica ordered them before the US Coast Guard did, who are now ordering almost 50, I think. Canada has now ordered a variant, Mexico has them, and the Bahamas and Barbados use them, as they are quite robust and stable craft.

    Yes, the JDF could use the CR90s, but they are not best suited for the open ocean waters that Jamaica is faced with, particularly on the North Coast. They are best suited for near-shore, inshore or protected waters.

    The Paul Bogle is operational, as I just saw it in use a few weeks ago. Not sure about the Fort Charles, but at least 3 additional vessels are needed, and eventually one larger OPV with a helicopter deck to assist with SAR functions. Which leads to the need for more helicopters...

    The last fiasco, the AS355s can not be repeated. While generally good helicopters, they were ordered with the French engines, rather than the US Allison engines which would have been easier to maintain. I'm ok with the Bell 412s...older technology but very reliable, but the JDF needs at least 8 - 1 dedicated as a fully equipped air ambulance, 2 as SAR versions, and the other 5 as troop transports/utility helicopters.

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    1. I agree with you and as soon as the Government stop wasting money and stop letting China take advantage of the Country Jamaica will better off. China buying up the Country and donates Bullshit equipments and band equipments when the Country needs tools to secure the Border and fight the criminals. The U.S donates Millions and Billions to Countries that help tp fight there wars or they thinks Terrorist can used to attacked them the last time i check Jamaica is in the U.S backyard and needs help to secure its borders. A continuous unsecured Jamaica is a threat to the U.S National Security. In my opinion. So Jamaica needs ro stop biting its finger nails and putting up with the criminals and crazy gun men and asked for Equipments thats needed and not wait for another Tivoli to happen.

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  9. So whats going on with the Base the Canadians supposed to be setting up in Jamaica?

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    1. According to an article on forces.gc.ca:

      "So building on the long and highly successful history of cooperation between Canada and Jamaica, I am pleased that today, Minister Bunting and I have signed a Memorandum of Understanding for a Canadian Forces Operational Support Hub in Jamaica."

      "This will allow the Canadian Forces, if and when required, to stage personnel and supplies using Up Park Camp, Norman Manley International Airport, Kingston Harbour, or other locations, depending on operational needs."

      Source: http://www.forces.gc.ca/en/news/article.page?doc=jamaica-operational-support-hub/hgq87xrn

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    2. In other words, they won't be building a base, they'll use what already exists, and only use it when needed, which means they'll pay for it only when they use it, which means no money now.

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  10. JDF could do with 1 or 2 (all they can afford) ships with a helicopter deck like these: http://products.damen.com/en/ranges/offshore-patrol-vessel
    And a couple CB90's..also a few more RHIB's would be useful.

    Remember larger ships can launch small,fast boats like RHIB's to chase drug boats that they cannot keep up with.

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